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I'll tell you why I would INSIST if I was part of a so-calledTrinity. Any Christian has heard of the  Athanasian Creed, it is one of the earliest complete statements of the Trinity and it  explains it this way:

“The Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost is all one: the glory equal, the majesty coeternal. . . . the Father is almighty, the Son almighty, and the Holy Ghost almighty. . . . So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet there are not three Gods, but one God. . . . In this Trinity none is afore or after other; none is greater or less than another. But the whole three persons are coeternal together, and coequal.”

If that was TRUE, then I would have EVERY reason to voice my strong concern that I remained nameless in the account I last spoke of.

In effect I would be asking : Why is the name of God (Jehovah) and the name of his Son (Jesus) mentioned but I remain nameless??? Where is supposedly qualifying statement : ".. the glory equal, the majesty coeternal..none is afore or after other; none is greater or less than another. " etc etc ??

 By the way, I do NOT believe in any TRINITY. God is one,his name is told us in Ex. 6:2,3 and Deut. 6:4,5 which Jesus quoted from at Mark 12: 29,30



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For those that happen to believe in the Trinity methinks they have a confronting problem to deal with.Namely the fact that
more than 20 years after Jesus died and ascended to heaven, the apostle Paul wrote: “‘For who has known the mind of the Lord [the Father] so as to instruct him?’ But we have the mind of Christ.” (1 Corinthians 2:16) How is it possible to have “the mind of Christ” and yet not know “the mind of the Lord”—if the Father and the Son are coequal?
Anonymous, does that help answer your question that Christ and 'the Holy Spirit' are NOT the same as the Father?

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Ex-huyton, it appears that what Jesus did in the interim years during his adolescence up to the time he turned 30 is a quiet period in his life. In Jewish life a man started on his ministry when he turned 30 and that corelates with Jesus' Baptism. Baptism being carried out for the forgiveness of sins. However, in Jesus' case it was not for symbolism of forgiveness of sins as Jesus was perfect, sinless. Rather, it was his presenting of himself to the Father to do, not his own will but the will of his father, As Jesus so often said.. Lk. 22:42 et. al.
So, if there was some construction going on in his neighbourhood, we are not told of that as it had nothing to do with the preaching campaign that he was about to embark on . No doubt he was a Great artisan, he could make some fine furniture, yoke, desks,beds,tables etc. etc. But that will not encourage us to "..keep on seeking 1st. the Kingdom.." as he so often spoke of.

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What about changing the topic to read more like the Queen's English? What about naming the topic: Is God a Trinity?

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Lamlon, are you capable of giving a succint reply? I know you are quite adept at verbosity but I am afraid that you lose all your reading audience with your nuances of points you try to make. Keep it simple,perhaps you will actually get an intelligent reply.



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You as humans, have the body, mind and spirit. You can not live without any of the three?

Sun, for example, is a planet sends us light and heat, is it possible to separate any of the three?

Thus unites the Father and of the Son "the word" and the Holy Spirit.



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Jawjaw: Thanks for your comment but I put it to you that many have tried to explain the Trinity using the physical properties of water-vis: steam,liquid and solid. I have even heard of the use of an egg as an illustration- The shell, the white and the yolk. Are we to assume that God can be likened to eggs? Or even the lowly nature of water? These are creations of God and I am reminded of Isiah's words at Isa. 45:9. Simple truth is that God is a person (Heb.9:24),his name is Jehovah. He has a son named Jesus(Matt. 3:17) and his Holy Spirit is his impersonal,active force( 2Pet. 1:21)

Think, think please,if Jesus was God then why was he given a name greater than he had before he came to earth? Who woud be in a position to grant him this great honour? It has to be given by someone GREATER than he is. Please read Phill chapter 2--all of it! It is about Humility. Jesus displayed such humility,he was faithful in his assignment in coming to earth, dying faithfully and being rewarded when returning home to his God and Father in heaven.Pure and simple.

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If you're looking for the truth in a neutral manner, you will reach it,

but if you're dismissive truth. You will always find reasons convince yourself out so far from the truth.



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Thank you for your comment, I'm asking with you; is there prophet without prophecies?

Mohammed did not predict even one prophecy but he did not know his fate after death. By the way, what is your religion? 

 
 


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The Bible does not have fakes verses, because God-breathed.

When you said that there are 'spurious verses' you must proved by evidence.



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Unfortunately, all the questions which you asked, you will find the answer in detail in the discussion topic but you do not want to believe.



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Jawjaw, when I go fishing I have 

1 : HOOK

2:LINE

3: SINKER

Does that mean it is going to be very good for the fish? Why not? I have my Trinity, no? The fish will be ok won't it?

 Can you see that your comment is not valid? Trinity does not assimilate with necessity for LIFE. So many things are in 3 e.g: 1: road 2: car 3: me.

What does road,car,me got to do with God?

 



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