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greenshield · Senior Member

The Practice of Medicine is a State Sponsored Religion

Ex-huyton · Senior Member

Well, I stand before you as an example of someone whose life has been saved by these villains, so I know that you are talking tosh.

On the old subject of salt in our diet, I recently came across a 'letter and answer' on the medical page of the September issue of 'Saga', the British organisation that serves the upper range of the population, so I offer it here as a steadying influence on those who might be inclined to swallow your often quirky advice:

Q. I'm 69, of normal weight, am physically active and have normal blood pressure. At home I use LoSalt, but add normal salt when eating out. Is there any reason why I shouldn't use low-sodium or indeed ordinary salt?

Dr. David Roche's answer: "High salt (sodium chloride) intakes are associated with high blood pressure (hypertension), from which 20% of us - at least - suffer. Research has shown that low-salt diets can reduce blood pressure in those with hypertension and with normal blood pressure. If you do not have high blood pressure and are pursuing an active, healthy lifestyle, then reducing salt modestly is all that is required. It's fine to add a little salt to the water you're going to cook vegetables in, but don't add any at the table and avoid very salty food and processed food that contains excessive salt.

Anyone with high blood pressure or heart failure should restrict their intake further. LoSalt is an alternative to normal salt - it contains two-thirds potassium chloride and one-third sodium chloride. As only the latter contributes to hypertension, it is an option if you are still determined to add salt to your diet."

greenshield · Senior Member

Hi, my Granddad died of heart failure, my Great Uncle died of heart failure. Almost everyone in my family has or had high blood pressure including my Mom and my dearly departed Dad. My family has been decimated by Cancer, Diabetes and Heart Disease. They dropped like flies.

My point is that it does not matter what you call the disease. The diagnosis and names are not important. What is important are the causes. The fact is that all disease can be traced to deficiencies in nutrition either from lack of nutrition in the foods people eat or the inability to absorb the nutrients.

Basically, my family members all died of ignorance. They all took their medicines as prescribed by the doctors. They all took those tests and evaluations. They all reduced their salt intake. None of them new about Himalayan Salt or Celtic Sea Salt both of which have more than 80 minerals in them. None of them new how to nutrify the body. All of them believed in the "miracle" of drugs and doctors.

In my fathers case, he retired after a 25 year career with IBM. He had excellent private insurance. It was no surprise that he had every disease known to mankind from Prostate Cancer to Heart Disease to Diabetes. They milked him for everything his insurance was worth. When that ran out he was dead. The funny thing is that Diabetes can be easily. It is a lifestyle disease. Death resulting from Diabetes is a choice. It is not a necessity. My Dad, God rest his soul, was ignorant about his own health and chose to follow competent medical protocol to his death.

My father's mother is another case to consider. She had never been to a doctor in her life. She was a poor woman from Panama in Central America. She ate natural foods and was never sick. She moved to New York where her diet changed to a more modern diet. She became diabetic. On doctor's advice she agreed to have her leg amputated. She died on the operating table. She was 90 years old. Was the doctor paid? Of course he was.

Don't miss understand me. There is a need for "Heroic Medicine" such as in the case of a car accident. But our system is not based on healing and curing. It is based on medicating, burning and cutting the offending organ out. And when that does not work death is the only option to quote my Dad before he died. All the myths, memes and beliefs that we are fed daily about how great our medical system is is meant to perpetuate the medical industry not to heal and cure.

My only question to you is, how many drugs do you take?

Ex-huyton · Senior Member

Probably our difficulty in aligning our experiences lies in the fact that I am in Britain, which has the National Health Service, and you are in the U.S., where the doctors want paying for any service they provide to you.

To answer your question, I have been on three drugs for several years and they have served me very well. This is as much as I am willing to say on that point.

Both of my parents died in their 50s, and I'm sure that smoking was a strong factor in both cases.

greenshield · Senior Member

Sir,

No matter if you have private medical or state run tax paid medical the problem is with the medical model not the method of payment.

I am not in America. I live in Spain. So I know the socialist medical model very well throughout Europe. It is the same as in America.

In contrast, my wife who comes from Russia gives me another perspective. In many ways the Soviet medical system was better than ours.

Factual speaking, drugs do not heal. They are handled by the body as poisons. Only the body can heal itself.