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x one · Newbie

who needs the world?

Ex-huyton · Senior Member

I always find such questions rather silly. The world is a wonderful place, and if this is not the case where you are then it is likely to be due to politics or religion; or most likely both.

Is it possible that the demands of your religion have made you a bit depressed?

spiritwithme · Member

God created the world so we could exspereince all that the world IS,the pain,the suffering,the good and the beautiful....WE have failed in so many ways...thats OUR fault..by not living together as one...we came from Spirit and we go back to spirit..this is just a visit to this world...i cant wait to die and be spirit again.only listen to the spirit..for it will guide and speak to you.

Ratnesh · Member

Science do not justify existence of God. You might think that if god does not created the world then who did this? But this question is vague as everything that exist does not necessarily requires creator. Paradise, Hell and religion are mere creation of human beings. You can understand this by the fact that people from ancient religions used to have a Rain god but modern religions do not. Why?

Because ancient people were unknown of the cause of thunders, rain, earthquakes, etc. They used to relate any natural calamity with God's wrath as they did not knew the actual science behind those things.

But as Science matured and rationalism grew, people became aware of reasons behind things. Now people are open for logical discussions which was a taboo in previous times. Now, let me answer your question clearly... We, the humans need this world because we are the most advanced race on this planet. We have the burden of safety and growth of our planet. We are responsible for anything that happens on our planet. We have successfully explored the galaxy in our reach.

It is up to you whether you believe in God or not but as far as science and logic is concerned, there is no God so enjoy.

Ex-huyton · Senior Member

This is your ideology, but it may not be true and what you are actually looking forward to is annihilation although you don't know it. The obvious danger of holding your view is that you end up taking a dim view of matters secular and cease to value the real world. After all, where do all the suicide bombers come from?

Carbon · Newbie

From what I know of the bible it states that we will be raised from the dead in physical form.. With my very own eyes will I see GOD & after judgment will we receive our new bodies then dwell with GOD & forever be with GOD...have I read wrong?

x one · Newbie

you are saying that the world is wonderful. but it is true only for some occasions of the life. what about aging and illnesses? what about the death of you or your loved ones? Take yourself as an example. at such time will you feel the wonderfulness you said? these things are not related to the politics, religion or the birth.

if the god is the one who do these all, why cannot he do only good things? if the god creates only good things, then this real world becomes a paradise itself. we don't need any paradise after death. also why the god needs tests upon us, if he is the one who creates us? why cannot he create ideal people whom do not want to be tested, if he has the ultimate power?

some people born with defects in the body and the mind. will they find the wonderful world you said? how can they be selected to be born like that.

some animals born to die to make foods with their bodies. won't those animal feel the pain? so why those animals born as animals? how can they be selected to born as animals? shouldn't they be able to find a wonderful life?

as I know Jesus ( Muhammad for Islam) brought the message about the god. that means people don't know about god before that. but those people also had a life same to us. they also born, lived with pleasure and sadness and then died. if the sad things are happened as a result of the testing done by the god, why the god tested people who even don't know about him? what was he wanted to find out? also at present some people are there who don't know about the god or don't believe in god. they also have the same life which the believers have.

no dear.. the world is the world. it is not a paradise and nor a hell. every thing is changing continuously as changing is the nature of them. nothing is constant or eternal. as a result of this nature (changing), we are having the pleasure or the sadness. even a powerful god can't change this nature and make us happy eternally.

x one · Newbie

some are saying that the world is wonderful. but it is true only for some occasions of the life. what about aging and illnesses? what about the death of you or your loved ones? Take yourself as an example. at such time will you feel the wonderfulness you said? these things are not related to the politics, religion or the birth.

if the god is the one who do these all, why cannot he do only good things? if the god creates only good things, then this real world becomes a paradise itself. we don't need any paradise after death. also why the god needs tests upon us, if he is the one who creates us? why cannot he create ideal people whom do not want to be tested, if he has the ultimate power?

some people born with defects in the body and the mind. will they find the wonderful world you said? how can they be selected to be born like that.

some animals born to die to make foods with their bodies. won't those animal feel the pain? so why those animals born as animals? how can they be selected to born as animals? shouldn't they be able to find a wonderful life?

as I know Jesus ( Muhammad for Islam) brought the message about the god. that means people don't know about god before that. but those people also had a life same to us. they also born, lived with pleasure and sadness and then died. if the sad things are happened as a result of the testing done by the god, why the god tested people who even don't know about him? what was he wanted to find out? also at present some people are there who don't know about the god or don't believe in god. they also have the same life which the believers have.

no dear.. the world is the world. it is not a paradise and nor a hell. every thing is changing continuously as changing is the nature of them. nothing is constant or eternal. as a result of this nature (changing), we are having the pleasure or the sadness. even a powerful god can't change this nature and make us happy eternally.

Ex-huyton · Senior Member

The mature and sane individual realises and accepts that we are born, we live, and we die. There is no reason to introduce myths and stories to justify or complicate those facts as the religions are wont to do.

Yes, it is sad that some people suffer incapacities and illnesses that mar their life experience. Similarly there are many who have limited enjoyment of their lives because of poverty or complicated relationships with their families or friends, but these are simply the casualties which statistics would predict.

All of us will ultimately die, and it is baby-ish to hope that we might be the exception to this great fact of life. Talking about babies -- that is the consolation to our passing! New life begins and we are replaced! Our efforts must be directed to raising the new person to become wise, kind and knowledgeable - not tied up with religious mumbo jumbo as so many are.